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Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 601	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:11:00 - [1] - Quote Xpaulusx wrote: Hate to tell you, but the Tec problem existed ( concentration of moons in one region) long before Goons ever got deklien, in fact mittens even addressed the problem so don't blame goons blame CCP for the footdragging on this issue. What's even funnier was Goonswarm holding Delve (i.e. the region with the most Dyspro/Prom) when the changes came :v But no, totally biased decision purely to benefit Devswarm. Glad this guy's on the case! Imagine the damage he'll do once he realizes how to make market history go back farther than 5 days!
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 602	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:17:00 - [2] - Quote MilitantMan wrote: Look I admitted the mistake on the price. So go chill.... Again however that CCP Change wasnt the cause of that dip in price Riiiight, Tech didn't drop from over 200k at one point to less than 80k today because of CCP's alchemy changes. Somehow this managed to happen even though most of the tech is actually in far fewer hands now than it was at its peak. Explain this to us, oh market wizard! Edit: here's a fun thread for those of us not in the middle of a DEM GOONS conniption: "Current SiSi T2 component usage make TECHNETIUM "the new dysprosium" http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1208383
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 602	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:26:00 - [3] - Quote MilitantMan wrote: Ah right so you are telling me that everyone managed to moon mine all those minerals and do the reactions, to such an amount in such a small time to cause that dip? Please stop now before you do start to look a little silly now.. That's usually how these things happen. Nerf announced, people act accordingly. It's not like reactions are some kind of foreign thing, or that nobody was mining platinum or cobalt before this was announced. Besides, you skipped the fundamental part of my question. If the drop in prices (not dip, drop, the drop has been happening pretty much since CCP Fozzie's devblog mid-July) was not caused by alchemy changes but instead by (insert your own batshit reason here), wouldn't that price be on its way back up now that most of the tech in the game is quite literally consolidated by one coalition? Especially one that would most definitely be fixing prices if it were at all able to?
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 602	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:30:00 - [4] - Quote MilitantMan wrote: and the second quote, again the price dropped in a matter of a couple of weeks, it would be impossible to moon mine such an amount to be produced via reactions in that time to make an impact on the market n just a couple of weeks. Speculation caused the initial sharp decline (note: speculation caused by the alchemy nerf). It rose for a while once the Tribute War started (first step was attacking NCdot's Tech in Venal/Tribute, which naturally caused a drop in supply), but once that subsided (and actual alchemy no doubt kicked in), it started dropping again, and currently sits even lower than it was during that initial downwards slope.
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 602	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:47:00 - [5] - Quote MilitantMan wrote: Exactly, so the 'speculation' caused it, not by people actually producing anything to make it happen. Therefore the 'actual' change didnt cause that to happen. I doubt tbh its had that much impact even now. Speculation happens for a reason - people don't just decide to behave differently without new information to make them do that. If you look at the beginning of the slope, it's just past the midway point in July. CCP Fozzie's Tech devblog was July 19th. That's not really a coincidence. If it was just speculation that was keeping the price low, wouldn't it be recovering by now, especially considering most of the tech is in one coalition's hands right now? It's now by-and-large in the hands of two former OTEC members, and the rather sizable spike in Tech prices pre-nerf is proof positive that they know how to operate a price cartel. So what gives? Why is tech still going down? "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 603	Posted - 2012.11.28 21:52:00 - [6] - Quote MilitantMan wrote: care to explain what that is? Ever scan a moon? It sucks. Scanning an entire system sucks even worse. Scanning an entire region should be banned by the Geneva Convention. Having to re-scan entire regions every X amount of time would be torturous, and few would bother with it. The biggest advantage would no doubt be granted to the biggest groups of players (the ones that can afford to outsource the scanning to what few rank-and-file members are insane enough to want to), who would no doubt seek to grow even larger to cover that much more territory under their umbrella, either for maximising potential future moons (and/or denying them to others). The mechanic itself would also cause scarcity issues with moon minerals, so hoep u like high T2 prices! tl;dr if you want to see even bigger blobs of people getting one day closer to quitting Eve forever while T2 prices skyrocket, support this idea. You may also want to look into getting your Grade 10. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 603	Posted - 2012.11.28 22:36:00 - [7] - Quote Rath Kelbore wrote: Probing out a system is a pain, but I think you're exaggerating a tad. If a corp of say 10 people set about documenting a region of moons it can be done fairly quickly without anyone committing suicide. I mean some people actually mine, so whatever.. Have you ever done this? Serious question. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 603	Posted - 2012.11.28 22:45:00 - [8] - Quote Rath Kelbore wrote: Yes sir. Edit: Have you? An entire region? No, my eyes started to bleed after 3 systems. I just think you're severely exaggerating how quickly an entire region scan takes without an incredible amount of poopsocking. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 603	Posted - 2012.11.28 23:04:00 - [9] - Quote Rath Kelbore wrote: Well if you can stand 3 systems and you have some friends who can also stand 3 systems................It's not so bad. That's the whole point isn't it. Working with a group of people to achieve a goal. Alliances could pay (and possibly do idk) x amount per system scanned and documented. . Obviously no one person does it. That's why I said the entire system would swing even more in favour of larger blobs, as they can easily afford to not only pay a flat reward per scanned system, but they can have a far larger playerbase to get it done faster. Besides, scanning's only one part of the hassle. Shifting towers around is far more annoying, and due to the nature of POS roles/etc, it can only be done by people with appropriate standings, as opposed to the large crowdsourced scanning. Even having to repeat that once a year is one time too many. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Snow Axe GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 605	Posted - 2012.11.29 11:27:00 - [10] - Quote MilitantMan wrote: So you are basically saying you are too lazy to go actually scan moons in order to generate billions per month? Seriously? It must be the easiest way to make ISK ever. I would gladly scan a region knowing i got a good chance to hit 10 moons or more that will give me a few hundred bill income a month... Well, there's plenty of undocumented and/or poorly documented areas. Go forth and scan, my friend! Apparently nothing but easy money aways you! "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

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